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By:Chuck Zeiler
Dates:2/4/1964 - 12/31/1990
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KCS SW7 4313
Title:  KCS SW7 4313
Description:  Kansas City Southern Railway SW7 4313 at Fort Smith, Arkansas on November 28, 1974, Kodachrome by Paul L. Strang, Chuck Zeiler collection.
Photo Date:  11/28/1974  Upload Date: 4/3/2018 6:06:04 PM
Location:  Fort Smith, AR
Author:  Paul; L. Strang
Categories:  RollingStock
Locomotives:  KCS 4313(SW7)
Views:  208   Comments: 0
KCS 750794
Title:  KCS 750794
Description:  Kansas City Southern Railway 750794 at Aurora, Illinois on September 8, 1982, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler.
Photo Date:  9/8/1982  Upload Date: 4/3/2018 6:08:58 PM
Location:  Aurora, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  RollingStock
Locomotives: 
Views:  106   Comments: 0
KCS 056
Title:  KCS 056
Description:  KCS 056 on the BN at Cicero, Illinois on an unknown day in July 1981, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler. This car arrived in the company of five KCS SD40-2's and the BN business car Yellowstone River. I sent an inquiry to the KCS Historical Society and received the following:

Chuck, thank you for your inquiry to Kansas City Southern Historical Society, Inc. via our web site. You are welcome to use any of the information below. There is a bit of misinformation based on invalid assumptions about this car. It was indeed an ex-troop sleeper. It later was used in wreck-train service before becoming a test car in 1981. The following paragraph is composed of excerpts from messages posted anonymously to the KCSnotes e-mail group by someone who had worked aboard the car during that period:

I spent a good portion of my life riding this car in the early 1980s. I was very much involved when the KCS 056 and 057 were in test car service starting very late March of 1981. In fact it made its inaugural run on Train 91, a Welsh Power Plant coal train, starting that night at Pittsburg the day President Regan was shot. The car was originally taken out of wreck train service in early 1981, and converted to living quarters by Comet Industries in KC when the KCS started testing its automatic Fuel Saver device right at the end of March, 1981. A dynamometer coupler was later added. The car was later wired and piped to go mid-engine consist. The car did many miles on the KCS of course as well as Cicero, IL to Seattle 6 round trips. Anyone who has (I think it is) the Oct 1981 issue of Trains there is a picture of it coming out of the Cascade Tunnel. There also was a bunch of coal trains on the BN in NE. It also did a round trip from KC to Pueblo, CO on D&RGW trains on MOP track. The 056 and 057 did have the same caboose trucks at first, but it was very bouncy rough ride. The 056 had two huge water tanks hanging from the ceiling inside from the center door area going back to the B end. The water was for the showers and lavatories in the B end as well as the kitchenette in the A end as well as piped to the 057 when we used it for extra beds. That 057 was all beds other than the shower and lavatory area. I don't think the 057 had a center door either then. We only used the 057 a couple /3 times. It wasn't long they put regular freight trucks under the 056 that made it ride like it had no suspension. After removing some of the springs, it wasn't too bad unless on jointed rail still quite common then or when the car got over 60 MPH when the A end truck started truck hunting. Just for the record when the fellow who posted the picture wrote, 'This was listed as a dynamometer car but some KCS observers have noted that the 'Spot 1' on these cars indicates that it is a rail defect spotting car.' To the best of my knowledge the car was never used a rail defect car. The 'Spot 1' designation was a joke I am 99% sure. The fellow at the time that oversaw the work and modifications of the car nickname was 'Spot' due to his very shiney bald spot. It appears that KCS 057 didn’t remain on the roster as long as KCS 056, but the latter lasted long enough to be painted into the KCS gray livery and to be renumbered to KCS 10. Eventually, it was retired and sold to the Progress Rail Services’ railcar scrapping yard at Waskom, Texas. Progress apparently bought it for its trucks, then sold the body to a private party who moved it to another location in Waskom, where it was last known to be sitting on the ground. Neither its current location nor even its existence are known to me. You will find some other photos of this car at:

Photo 1

Photo 2

Photo 3

Lowell G. McManus, Eagle Pass, Texas

Photo Date:  7/1/1981  Upload Date: 5/26/2012 2:42:04 PM
Location:  Cicero, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Roster,Yard
Locomotives:  KCS 686(SD40-2)
Views:  2003   Comments: 6
KCS 056
Title:  KCS 056
Description:  KCS 056 at BN's Clyde, Illinois facilities on an unknown day in July 1981, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler. This car was part of a KCS fuel saving test train that ran on the BN for a while. A photo of this equipment at the Cascade Tunnel at Scenic, Washington on July 10, 1981 appears on page 19 of the October 1981 issue of Trains Magazine.
Photo Date:  7/1/1981  Upload Date: 5/26/2012 3:26:11 PM
Location:  Clyde (subdivision), IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Yard
Locomotives:  KCS 686(SD40-2)
Views:  556   Comments: 0
KCS F7 71
Title:  KCS F7 71
Description:  KCS F7 71 at Heavener, Oklahoma, slide mount stamped JUN 81. By matching the hand-written road number on the mount with other slides in my collection, it looks like Kodachrome by Paul L. Strang, Chuck Zeiler collection. Other than the number 71, the slide was unmarked. See Paul's comment below.
Photo Date:  6/1/1981  Upload Date: 5/26/2012 2:05:08 PM
Location:  Heavener, OK
Author:  Paul L. Strang
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  KCS 71(F7A)
Views:  1204   Comments: 2
KCS F7 95
Title:  KCS F7 95
Description:  KCS F7 95, date. location, and photographer unknown (possibly Steve Laser), unmarked slide from Chuck Zeiler collection. The location is a guess at Heavener, Oklahoma based on the vents on the roof of the building. At the back end of the unit it is stencilled: L&A 58A.
Photo Date:  6/1/1975  Upload Date: 6/18/2012 3:42:26 PM
Location:  Heavener, OK
Author:  Steve Laser
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  KCS 95(F7A)
Views:  882   Comments: 2
KCS GP9 4162
Title:  KCS GP9 4162
Description:  KCS GP9 4162 and F7's 71 and 95 at Heavener, Oklahoma, date and photographer unknown (possibly Steve Laser), slide from Chuck Zeiler collection. All information is a guess, the slide was unmarked. Any help would be appreciated. Here is what we know so far.

Bob Courtney posted this request for information on the Yahoo KCS Discussion Group (sorry, don't have the address) and got these replies.

The photo in question was taken in Heavener just northeast of the engine house looking to the southwest. Tut Bartzen

Number 71 is an F7, 95 is an F3. The black unit behind 95 is one of the GP7's still painted in the black scheme. Numberboards on the front start with a 4 and the last digit visible on the cab side appears to be an 8. This would make it the 4158. It's original number would have been the 158. Question to ask..... When was it renumbered to 4158 from 158 and when was it painted white? The 4162 still has it's high nose front, so that definitely makes this a pre-1983 picture as it was rebuilt with a chopped nose after the wreck in Pittsburg, TX in '84. It is also post 1954 as it no longer has the GP7 louver on the hood and the panels under the cab since it was rebuilt from a GP7 into GP9m after its first wreck in 1954 by EMD. Casey

Chuck's comment: As stated, all information was a guess. I chose Pittsburg because I knew there was a shop there and the locomotives looked like they needed shopping more than servicing, but the roof vents on the shop building are unusual for the KCS. The 95 is a upgraded F3, according to the book, Kansas City Southern In The Deramus Era, by Louis A. Marre and Gregory J. Sommers. It was delivered in 1948 as F3 58A. In 1957 the 58 A-B-B-A set was broken up and 58A was renumbered 58, later renumbered to 95 before the KCS settled on four digit numbers for the F-units. Note 36 reads:

L&A 58A rebuilt to F7 specifications 12/31/53; renumbered to 95 at Pittsburg 5/68; renumbered to 4052 at Pittsburg 4/3/78.

As for the dark GP7, I assumed it to be an MP unit (but it lacks the MP chevrons), so KCS 4161 would be my guess. I looked at a closeup of the slide but could not accurately make out the number so I made no comment in the original post. Another determining factor to help pinpoint the date is the repaint, renumbering, or retirement date of 71. UPDATE: I received an email from Paul Strang with the following; I don’t recognize the photo and I don’t think I’ve ever seen the power split up that way. This shot might be by Steve Laser. He went there at lot right after he got out of the Navy and I ended up processing most of his stuff. This photo is at Heavener. The Wye track on which 71 was shot (in another slide) is the track in the foreground. The Fort Smith Dodger rated 95, a switcher, or a GP7/9. The AW (Arkansas Western branch to Waldron, AR) required two F-units as the max speed was 10 mph and there had to be enough power to climb the small grades w/o being able to get a run at them. The South Local had two GP30's and the North Local had two GP7/9 at this time. Mena had a GP for a switcher. It would often come to Heavener on weekends for service. That probably explains one of those units.

Photo Date:  6/1/1975  Upload Date: 6/5/2012 2:38:33 PM
Location:  Heavener, OK
Author:  Steve Laser
Categories:  Yard
Locomotives:  KCS 4162(GP9R) KCS 95(F7A) KCS 71(F7A)
Views:  1896   Comments: 0
KCS F7 95
Title:  KCS F7 95
Description:  Kansas City Southern F7 95 at Heavener, Oklahoma on May 21, 1976, slide by Paul Strang from Chuck Zeiler collection. I know nothing about this slide. It is unmarked and in a mount that says, Seal Edge With Warm Iron, suggesting that it was mounted by someone other than the lab. UPDATE: I received an email from Paul Strang that says; Steve Laser and I shot each shot that. This slide is mine. The Fort Smith Dodger completed its work early and tied up in Heavener, OK yard 5/21/76.
Photo Date:  5/21/1976  Upload Date: 1/20/2014 2:33:58 PM
Location:  Heavener, OK
Author:  Paul Strang
Categories:  RollingStock,Yard
Locomotives:  KCS 95(F7A)
Views:  936   Comments: 0
KCS SD40 615
Title:  KCS SD40 615
Description:  KCS SD40 615 at Alliance, Nebraska on December 31, 1982, Kodachrome by Jim Altman, Chuck Zeiler collection.
Photo Date:  12/31/1982  Upload Date: 6/5/2012 6:59:28 PM
Location:  Alliance, NE
Author:  Jim Altman
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  KCS 615(SD40)
Views:  426   Comments: 1
KCS SD40-2 648
Title:  KCS SD40-2 648
Description:  KCS SD40-2 648 at Neosho, Missouri on December 8, 1992, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler.
Photo Date:  12/8/1992  Upload Date: 9/3/2012 11:37:12 AM
Location:  Neosho, MO
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Yard
Locomotives:  KCS 648(SD40-2)
Views:  472   Comments: 0
KCS SD40-2 651
Title:  KCS SD40-2 651
Description:  KCS SD40-2 651 at Alliance, Nebraska on September 27, 1982 Kodachrome by Jim Altman, Chuck Zeiler collection.
Photo Date:  9/27/1982  Upload Date: 9/3/2012 10:51:31 AM
Location:  Alliance, NE
Author:  Jim Altman
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  KCS 651(SD40-2)
Views:  664   Comments: 0
KCS SD40-2 666
Title:  KCS SD40-2 666
Description:  KCS SD40-2 666 at Heavener, Oklahoma on November 27, 1975, Kodachrome by Paul L. Strang, Chuck Zeiler collection. They weren't very proud of that number on the cab. Note the airplane balls (there's another one between the units) that should help narrow down the location. Paul adds the following; KCS 666 was shot at the then-new fueling facility at the north end of Heavener yard. It’s NB; looks like a SB next to it. The grass-strip airport was just on the other side of the tracks. It was used a lot back when the national hang-gliding championships were held on the mountain just to the east of the yard. They were moved to AZ shortly after these pictures were taken.
Photo Date:  11/27/1975  Upload Date: 7/11/2012 11:03:46 AM
Location:  Heavener, OK
Author:  Paul L. Strang
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  KCS 666(SD40-2)
Views:  734   Comments: 1
KCS SD40-2 683
Title:  KCS SD40-2 683
Description:  The Engineer is looking back for signals on KCS SD40-2 683 arriving at the BN in Cicero, Illinois on an unknown day in July 1981, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler. In addition to four more SD40-2's, KCS 056, a test car, and BN Yellowstone River are in tow.
Photo Date:  7/1/1981  Upload Date: 6/18/2012 4:05:59 PM
Location:  Cicero, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Yard
Locomotives:  KCS 683(SD40-2)
Views:  925   Comments: 3
KCS SD40-2 691
Title:  KCS SD40-2 691
Description:  KCS SD40-2 691 in a test train at BN's Cicero, Illinois yard on an unknown day in July 1981, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler.
Photo Date:  7/1/1981  Upload Date: 8/1/2012 11:50:40 AM
Location:  Cicero, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Yard
Locomotives:  KCS 691(SD40-2) BN 518(NW2)
Views:  1226   Comments: 0
KCS SD40X 703
Title:  KCS SD40X 703
Description:  KCS SD40X 703 in Chicago, Illinois on an unknown day in September 1979, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler. Fresh off the production line at LaGrange, number 703 was displayed at a railroad trade fair on the site of Illinois Central's Central Station. Note the signage all over the locomotive touting the features.
Photo Date:  9/1/1979  Upload Date: 8/1/2012 12:26:18 PM
Location:  Chicago, IL
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  KCS 703(SD40X)
Views:  797   Comments: 2
KCS SD50 708
Title:  KCS SD50 708
Description:  KCS SD50 708 and SD40-2 648 at Neosho, Missouri on December 8, 1992, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler.
Photo Date:  12/8/1992  Upload Date: 8/1/2012 12:53:37 PM
Location:  Neosho, MO
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Yard
Locomotives:  KCS 708(SD50) KCS 648(SD40-2)
Views:  548   Comments: 0
KCS SD50 709
Title:  KCS SD50 709
Description:  KCS SD50 709 at Neosho, Missouri on December 8, 1992, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler.
Photo Date:  12/8/1992  Upload Date: 9/3/2012 12:08:44 PM
Location:  Neosho, MO
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Yard
Locomotives:  KCS 709(SD50)
Views:  384   Comments: 0
KCS SD50 712
Title:  KCS SD50 712
Description:  Kansas City Southern SD50 712 at Neosho, Missouri on December 8, 1992, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler.
Photo Date:  12/8/1992  Upload Date: 11/17/2012 1:20:47 PM
Location:  Neosho, MO
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  KCS 712(SD50)
Views:  311   Comments: 0
KCS S12 1161
Title:  KCS S12 1161
Description:  Kansas City Southern S12 1161 at Kansas City, Kansas on August 15, 1965, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler. Number 1161 was built in April 1951 (c/n 75055), one of four Baldwin S12's delivered to the KCS (#'s 1160-1163). It has Milwaukee Road transfer caboose 01747 in tow, explained in comments to another photo of this situation: Jeff Carlson commented on 2/7/2012 8:18:37 AM; Interesting. Regarding the KCS-MILW combo, the two of them share Knoche Yard in KC, referring to it as the "Joint Agency." This agreement continues today with the KCS and CP (ICE). Chris Guss commented on 2/7/2012 6:32:13 PM; Knoche's Joint Agency term is just that. The locals based out of there use a mixture of crews and equipment on all jobs based in the terminal. Just like the equipment in your photo is mixed, the crew on board is also a mixture of KCS and MILW crewmembers.
Photo Date:  8/15/1965  Upload Date: 5/21/2015 6:15:55 PM
Location:  Kansas City, KS
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  KCS 1161(S12)
Views:  692   Comments: 0
KCS S12 1161
Title:  KCS S12 1161
Description:  KCS S12 1161 at Kansas City, Kansas on August 15, 1965, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler. Number 1161 was built in April 1951 (c/n 75055), one of four S12's delivered to the KCS (#'s 1160-1163). It has Milwaukee Road transfer caboose 01747 in tow, I have no explanation why, but please see the Comments below, thanks guys.
Photo Date:  8/15/1965  Upload Date: 2/6/2012 9:48:25 AM
Location:  Kansas City, KS
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  Yard
Locomotives:  KCS 1161(S12)
Views:  1822   Comments: 2
KCS F7 4053
Title:  KCS F7 4053
Description:  KCS F7 4053 at Heavener, Oklahoma on an unknown day in October 1979, Kodachrome by Paul L. Strang, Chuck Zeiler collection. Number 4053 was built as L&A F3A 58D in March 1948 (c/n 4931), was renumbered to 85 on January 1, 1957, and renumbered again to 4053 on April 3, 1978, sold for scrap on September 9, 1986 to George T. Cook. It was rebuilt to F9 specifications on February 14, 1954, and rebuilt again on March 29, 1956. It's unclear if the rebuildings were upgrades or wreck repairs. It looks like they touched up a bit around the front door. Paul adds this; As I recall, the banding around the nose door occurred when it was welded shut.
Photo Date:  10/1/1979  Upload Date: 7/11/2012 12:10:26 PM
Location:  Heavener, OK
Author:  Paul L. Strang
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  KCS 4053(F9AM)
Views:  766   Comments: 1
KCS GP30 4115
Title:  KCS GP30 4115
Description:  KCS GP30 4115 at Heavener, Oklahoma on an unknown day on October 1979, Kodachrome by Paul Strang, Chuck Zeiler collection.
Photo Date:  10/1/1979  Upload Date: 9/3/2012 12:56:26 PM
Location:  Heavener, OK
Author:  Paul Strang
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  KCS 4115(GP30)
Views:  389   Comments: 0
KCS GP9R 4162
Title:  KCS GP9R 4162
Description:  Kansas City Southern GP9R 4162 at Howe, Oklahoma on December 31, 1975, Kodachrome by Paul L. Strang, Chuck Zeiler collection. Number 4162 was built in February 1953 as KCS GP7 162 (c/n 17932), rebuilt aftwr wreck damage by EMD to GP9 specifications in October 1954. It was renumbered during 1973 from 162 to 4162, and a low short hood was applied by KCS during February 1984.
Photo Date:  12/31/1975  Upload Date: 11/17/2012 12:58:13 PM
Location:  Howe, OK
Author:  Paul L. Strang
Categories:  Signal
Locomotives:  KCS 4162(GP9R)
Views:  438   Comments: 0
KCS NW2 4225
Title:  KCS NW2 4225
Description:  Kansas City Southern NW2 4225 at Shreveport, Louisiana on June 28, 1980, Kodachrome by Paul L. Strang, Chuck Zeiler collection.
Photo Date:  6/28/1980  Upload Date: 11/17/2012 3:04:44 PM
Location:  Shreveport, LA
Author:  Paul L. Strang
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  KCS 4225(NW2)
Views:  438   Comments: 0
KCS SW7 4313
Title:  KCS SW7 4313
Description:  Kansas City Southern Railway SW7 4313 at Fort Smith, Arkansas on June 8, 1974, Kodachrome by Paul L. Strang, Chuck Zeiler collection. The class lights are lit, that's pretty neat.
Photo Date:  6/8/1974  Upload Date: 3/25/2013 12:33:07 PM
Location:  Fort Smith, AR
Author:  Paul L. Strang
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  KCS 4313(SW7)
Views:  543   Comments: 0
KCS SW1500 4346
Title:  KCS SW1500 4346
Description:  Kansas City Southern Railway SW1500 4346 at Heavener, Oklahoma on December 28, 1974, Kodachrome by Paul L. Strang, Chuck Zeiler collection.
Photo Date:  12/28/1974  Upload Date: 3/25/2013 1:57:16 PM
Location:  Heavener, OK
Author:  Paul L. Strang
Categories:  Roster
Locomotives:  KCS 4346(SW1500)
Views:  392   Comments: 0
KCS 170267
Title:  KCS 170267
Description:  KCS 170267 at Cotter, Arkansas on February 22, 1990, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler.
Photo Date:  2/22/1990  Upload Date: 10/20/2014 12:43:28 PM
Location:  Cotter, AR
Author:  Chuck Zeiler
Categories:  RollingStock
Locomotives: 
Views:  91   Comments: 0


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